Are Liberal Becoming More Conservative?
Watching this made me think so… Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist and tenured professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. Bret Weinstein is a former biology professor at Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA. Of course, these guys know each other, Jordan says the meet five years ago. Soon they became part of a movement that was known as “The Intellectual Dark Web” (then JP got sick… back now he is back!).
Full Podcast:
https://youtu.be/O55mvoZbz4Y
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Welcome back, Jordan
01:00 Beyond Order
03:40 Maps of Meaning
06:50 Holocaust through an evolutionary lens
09:25 We’re all descendants of rape
10:34 Socialization and stable societies
15:25 Genocide programming and chimps Vs humans
17:00 Work, sacrifice, and self-consciousness
21:36 Self-conscious emotions in non-human animals
24:00 Consciousness shared between skulls
26:00 Delayed gratification in squirrels and humans
28:35 Chimpanzees and human capacity
30:51 Belief in an afterlife
33:00 Science and religion similarities
35:37 How did the ‘Hero’s Journey’ evolve?
40:57 Bret’s agreement and pushback
42:57 Consciousness selects the gene
44:27 Bret’s pushback on Jordan’s hypothesis, discussing kin Vs group Vs lineage selection
52:56 Jordan’s response
56:14 Bret on consciousness selecting genes, and spider hedonism
58:39 We must confront the genes
01:00:37 Bret is Freud, Jordan is Jung
01:05:00 Foolishness may end humanity
01:07:27 Capitalism is underrated around vices
01:11:05 Optimistic future? Ridley, Lomborg, Pinker
01:17:07 Cultural evolution and religious mythology
01:20:00 How to continue humanity
01:23:23 Marxism fears
01:26:34 Marxism argument Bret doesn’t hear
01:29:39 Outcome, ability, and equality
01:33:55 Birth control and growth
01:37:17 Paying attention to your conscience
01:39:19 Spandrels
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01:44:35 Personal responsibility and criticizing systems
01:51:48 Demonizing competence and meritocracy. War on competence
01:57:55 How widespread is this problem. Discussing racist math
02:02:04 Yes, Jordan reads YouTube comments
02:03:01 Is it ubiquitous?
02:07:46 Are we nearing the end?
02:09:41 Dr. Seuss censorship and caricatures
02:12:03 Wrap up
Here is a second interview, or perhaps the first. In any case, they were only a few day appart and this time Bret in a guess on JP podcast. If you can’t get enough, here is more: